Is taking away guns from people what you mean by prevention? Because if so I think that’s a genius idea and will probably be extremely effective.
Even just sane universal background checks and red flag laws might help!
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Oh, it’s just predictive analytics that’ll shovel money into the pockets of palantir or someone similar? I guess that might help? Can we try my thing first?
This is such a stupid, disingenuous argument. Look, if you’ve got nothing to hide, then you should be fine with cops performing a warrantless search of your house, car, and strip searching you, right? After all, you haven’t done anything wrong, correct? If you’ve got nothing to hide, then your medical records should be public, right? Why are you keeping that bathroom door closed if you’re not hiding something, huh?
The right to keep and bear arms is a right. It’s not supposed to be a privilege dependent on the good will of the state. Same as speech/press, freedom of–and from–religion (which mean, yes, freedom from religious interference in state matters as well), and so on.
red flags laws
These have already been used to harass people that legally own firearms. Because it’s a civil process, the gun owner needs to pay for their own attorney to fight the claims. That means that you can easily end up with tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills just because you have someone decided to report you to police. It can take months or years to fight, and there’s not a clear standard since you might be a risk. I’ve personally dealt with this kind of bullshit in Illinois; I lost my FOID because I was held for observation for 72 hours while I was in the middle of an ugly divorce -and- being abused by my spouse. I would have needed to sue the state in order to get my basic rights back.
Is taking away guns from people what you mean by prevention? Because if so I think that’s a genius idea and will probably be extremely effective.
Even just sane universal background checks and red flag laws might help!
…
Oh, it’s just predictive analytics that’ll shovel money into the pockets of palantir or someone similar? I guess that might help? Can we try my thing first?
As a firearms owner I totally agree with background checks and red flags laws. I also agree with keeping your gun unloaded and locked away.
Gun owners that are against background checks, what are you hiding? If you have nothing to hide, why worry?
This is such a stupid, disingenuous argument. Look, if you’ve got nothing to hide, then you should be fine with cops performing a warrantless search of your house, car, and strip searching you, right? After all, you haven’t done anything wrong, correct? If you’ve got nothing to hide, then your medical records should be public, right? Why are you keeping that bathroom door closed if you’re not hiding something, huh?
The right to keep and bear arms is a right. It’s not supposed to be a privilege dependent on the good will of the state. Same as speech/press, freedom of–and from–religion (which mean, yes, freedom from religious interference in state matters as well), and so on.
These have already been used to harass people that legally own firearms. Because it’s a civil process, the gun owner needs to pay for their own attorney to fight the claims. That means that you can easily end up with tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills just because you have someone decided to report you to police. It can take months or years to fight, and there’s not a clear standard since you might be a risk. I’ve personally dealt with this kind of bullshit in Illinois; I lost my FOID because I was held for observation for 72 hours while I was in the middle of an ugly divorce -and- being abused by my spouse. I would have needed to sue the state in order to get my basic rights back.