First they blamed Hamas. Then they posted a video from 2022. Then they posted a video with a wrong timestamp (even though it was live). There were probably more but these are what came to mind.
Blaming Hamas makes sense if all you know is “We don’t think we did this and the org we are at war with are blaming us”. And I am not certain, but I want to say most of what you listed after that was less an Israeli Government statement and more The Internet (we even have shades of “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” in “hamas can’t make an explosion that big”)
But also? We are about 24 hours out from this. All news is breaking news. The Internet, much like The 24 Hour News Cycle, have made it incredibly easy to see every update as they exist (and, because of misinformation campaigns,non-stop FUD). But it is important to take a breath and wait for things to settle. Keep yourself informed, but avoid leaping to conclusions until there is time for third parties to vet information. And understand that, even now, we are still missing a lot of info.
And also learn how to vet your sources. because we are responding to a post that has decided the obvious answer to evidence indicating it was (probably) not the IDF is “Well, it was obviously a false flag by the IDF”. Which… gets back to crisis actor and “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” territory.
I hate this breaking news armsrace because it is a breeding place for fake news, especially on social media platforms like the cesspool twitter.
I rely on two news stations a German one, mandatory founded by German citizens (so no investments and ideology from other sources needed) and Reuters. And if a news is on both and without the “not independently verified” label I believe and maybe share it.
Information to people who don’t know how to parse it is dangerous and ever increasingly dangerous.
But… it is also clear that people are going to spew lies regardless. Again, “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams”.
And, as it stands? I very much prefer that I know a few people and orgs I trust to analyze available data. And they also document that analysis. Which is a lot better than hoping CNN paid someone competent to write a piece for Anderson Cooper to read out on air.
Like, reddit doxxing multiple victims over the years comes up every time. And… that is a definite concern. But that also gets into knowing how to vet your sources. Because I don’t care what some rando on a message board says about “that sounded like a JDAM to me” or “hamas doesn’t have explosives that big”. I care about what people who used to be CIA analysts and have a solid track record AND who understand what information you don’t publish online have to say.
It’s wild to me how “jet fire can’t melt steel beams” persisted as a myth. Several engineering fields know that a material’s strength goes down at higher temperatures.
Man, who would have expected the ride we’re all having right now? This is pretty amazing…. Who would have thought that this circus would come to town?
But, you know—it may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS, that’s all I got to say.
So what can I say? It’s—you know, the money’s rolling in, and this is fun.
While that is in regards to the orange piece of shit in America, it 100% applies to this news arms race as you call it.
They see the opportunity for money, who needs anything else once you’re first out the gate? Offer any contracts or don’t based on new evidence, it truly doesn’t matter once they get their clicks
I have not seen Israel change it’s story, do you have a source for that
First they blamed Hamas. Then they posted a video from 2022. Then they posted a video with a wrong timestamp (even though it was live). There were probably more but these are what came to mind.
Blaming Hamas makes sense if all you know is “We don’t think we did this and the org we are at war with are blaming us”. And I am not certain, but I want to say most of what you listed after that was less an Israeli Government statement and more The Internet (we even have shades of “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” in “hamas can’t make an explosion that big”)
But also? We are about 24 hours out from this. All news is breaking news. The Internet, much like The 24 Hour News Cycle, have made it incredibly easy to see every update as they exist (and, because of misinformation campaigns,non-stop FUD). But it is important to take a breath and wait for things to settle. Keep yourself informed, but avoid leaping to conclusions until there is time for third parties to vet information. And understand that, even now, we are still missing a lot of info.
And also learn how to vet your sources. because we are responding to a post that has decided the obvious answer to evidence indicating it was (probably) not the IDF is “Well, it was obviously a false flag by the IDF”. Which… gets back to crisis actor and “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” territory.
I hate this breaking news armsrace because it is a breeding place for fake news, especially on social media platforms like the cesspool twitter.
I rely on two news stations a German one, mandatory founded by German citizens (so no investments and ideology from other sources needed) and Reuters. And if a news is on both and without the “not independently verified” label I believe and maybe share it.
Information to people who don’t know how to parse it is dangerous and ever increasingly dangerous.
But… it is also clear that people are going to spew lies regardless. Again, “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams”.
And, as it stands? I very much prefer that I know a few people and orgs I trust to analyze available data. And they also document that analysis. Which is a lot better than hoping CNN paid someone competent to write a piece for Anderson Cooper to read out on air.
Like, reddit doxxing multiple victims over the years comes up every time. And… that is a definite concern. But that also gets into knowing how to vet your sources. Because I don’t care what some rando on a message board says about “that sounded like a JDAM to me” or “hamas doesn’t have explosives that big”. I care about what people who used to be CIA analysts and have a solid track record AND who understand what information you don’t publish online have to say.
It’s wild to me how “jet fire can’t melt steel beams” persisted as a myth. Several engineering fields know that a material’s strength goes down at higher temperatures.
It’s indeed true: Jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams, it just turns them into wet noodles.
The media companies LOVE it!!!
https://fair.org/home/trump-bad-for-america-good-for-cbs/
While that is in regards to the orange piece of shit in America, it 100% applies to this news arms race as you call it.
They see the opportunity for money, who needs anything else once you’re first out the gate? Offer any contracts or don’t based on new evidence, it truly doesn’t matter once they get their clicks
It’s important to clarify who is making those claims. Often it’s some rando or someone with no credentials to be making the claim.
Who downvotes people for asking for sources, pathetic
These are a few: https://twitter.com/MarkKersten/status/1714367614162702612, but they are saved all over if you don’t trust this random dude.
Do some more research. Check who that rando is. I debunked this tweet in like 20 seconds earlier in this thread