Whoopi Goldberg argued on “The View” that millennials feel that raising a family and buying a house are out of reach because they simply aren’t working hard enough.

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    10 months ago

    Speaking from a USA perspective:

    I’m 34. I guess that’s right in the sweet spot of middle millennials. I’ve been hearing how lazy and entitled I am since as long as I can remember. Almost every single one of my generational colleagues have been some of the hardest working people I’ve ever encountered and yet some of the most underpaid.

    Millennials on average are more educated, more trained, and more productive (in the sense that we are the largest generational labor pool in a labor environment that is roughly 70% more productive than the equivalent market when baby boomers were in their 30’s) than their baby boomer equivalent.

    To top things off, the average wealth gap between baby boomers and millennials has more than doubled since the 70’s and we own less than 5% of all US wealth.

    I’m not sure how less entitled we can get, relatively speaking? What I really ever wanted was a somewhat steady, fulfilling career with some meaning and a small little place of my own to eventually retire to. Maybe enough money that I didn’t have to worry too much about bills, food, and rent all of the time. We were told that so long as we worked our ass off, did well in school, got multiple degrees and certifications, put our heads down and did the hard work that we could get that. Turns out: not really true.

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      Same. I feel so entitled. My grandpa was able to pay for a house, two cars, a child, my grandmother’s law school and nice vacations, all on a working man’s salary. Sine my wife and I are both working full time, we should be able to afford way more than a shitty apartment that we never get to leave, and to start our own family. Must not have those things because we are lazy and entitled.

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      Well maybe if, when you were in high school working at Burger King, you put just a smidge more effort, just a pube’s worth more effort, into sweeping that floor, a senior VP at Boeing would’ve walked in and seen you, and said “Hey kid, you’ve got a great work ethic. Want to be a manager overseeing the new plant?”

      But you were lazy. You were putting in only 50 sweeps per minute when you could’ve clocked 75 spm EASY, and the SVP knew that, he saw that in your posture, so instead he just said to you “Hey can I get a napkin”, and because of that lazy entitlement, WITHHOLDING those 25 spm from your employer (God bless), you missed out.

      And that’s just one example of millennials being entitled, really it happens all the time. And Gen Z, they don’t even fetch the napkins, they just point to the dispenser on the counter, where it always is, and so there’s no really no chance for them at all.

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      10 months ago

      beautifully said… the way i feel about things also is… boomers and the immediate subsequent generations are fucking up the country and thriving… millenials are the ones holding it together with ducttape because that’s all we’ve got for now…

      and no, im not speaking for everyone in each group i just mentioned

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    man, the ultra rich really do live in an entirely different universe than the rest of us

    Reminder that, in constant dollars, GDP per capita has tripled since 1960. That’s right, we create three times the value that her generation did, we get less of it, and she has the nerve to say “Well if you only work 4 hours a day” when her job is having coffee with her lazy, rich entitled friends once a week. First up against the fucking wall.

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    They say: “Work smarter, not harder.”

    Millennials went to college, got smarter, then went out into the workforce and saw all the inefficiency in its processes (this 4 hour meeting could have been an email!) and pointed out how to do things differently. The older generations, afraid of loosing power, labeled the different way of doing things “lazy”, and labeled the millennials as such.

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    Whoopie doing this shit makes me more sad than other dipshit boomers. Growing up she was Guinan, a character on Star Trek TNG. She was unbelievably old and wise and gentle and kind and, honestly, had the best fucking hats. Every time she says something like this, or shat on Bernie, or whatever it is today, it drives home that it’s all story telling, and makes it harder to believe in something better.

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    10 months ago

    ‘the view’ is toxic. If there was an equivalent of toxic masculinity for women, it would be that show. I mean it had barbara Walters as an opinion in where she attacked Corey Feldman for trying to speak out on sexual harassment in the film industry. that should be all it needs to assess it as a garbage program. I cannot believe it kept running after that and found more garbage opinions to taint the media. I immediately lose all respect of any celebrity that gets cast on the view. Although I suppose I should be grateful that it has exposed so many piles of shit in the industry. A sandbox of regret filled with cat turds.

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      Yea this is just sad. I know this is the View, and having unpopular opinions is what fuels ratings and all but damn.

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    I’d love for someone to just once elaborate on this.

    What does it mean to work harder? More hours? Work harder at my current job?

    Most people would not be allowed to work at their job for more hours due to overtime limits. Some jobs won’t let people work a second job.

    If I work harder at my current job, what’s going to happen? Will they be grateful and just pay me more or will they create a position to promote me?

    I don’t get what that means.

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      You wanna know the real answer? Take advantage of others. Cheat, steal, lie, do whatever it takes to get ahead.

      Once you have money, you immediately become one of the ‘hard workers.’ Without it, you’ll always be seen as a lazy bum who only has themselves to blame for their position in life.

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      10 months ago

      It means get off your lazy ass and quit that dead end job. Start your own business selling chia underwear. You can’t afford the startup costs? Just get a couple mil loan from your dad.

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      People who say it don’t get what it means, because people who actually work hard don’t say it, and people who say it don’t work hard.

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      10 months ago

      Funniest thing is, probably anyone making minimum wage is working harder than woopi shitberg ever has

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      I’m a high-school teacher in Italy, if I wanted to work a second I would have to ask my principal for permission (and there are lota of jobs that are forbidden, anyway). If I wanted to work more at my high-school job, those activities would be paid next year, if I’m lucky.

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    “Every generation is told, ‘You’re gonna do worse than your parents,’

    What? The historical expectation is that every generation will be better off than the last. That hasn’t held in recent years, which is a problem.

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      If you’re raking in easy TV pundit money, you’re going to get out of touch real quick. That’s why watching TV is just so weird these days. It’s all millionaires that haven’t held a normal job in decades saying we’re just not working hard enough.

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    The older generations have always seen the younger generations as lazy

    “They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.”

    “Our youth love luxury. They have bad manners and despise authority. They show disrespect for their elders and love to chatter instead of exercise. Young people are now tyrants, not the servants of their household. They no longer rise when their elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up food and terrorize their teachers.”
    Rhetoric, Aristotle, 4th Century BC

    People have always whinged about young adults. Here’s proof

    Why old people will always complain about young people

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      The big takeaway from this is that change doesn’t happen until the old guard dies.

      We can’t reason with them. All we can do is wait for them to die of natural causes.

      Thank god death is built-in to the universe, or else we’d never solve these problems.