European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen suggesting replacing Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG) with U.S. exports in a phone conversation with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Nov. 8.
Von der Leyen spoke with Trump three days after his victory in the Nov. 5 presidential election.
Replacing Europe’s supplies of Russian LNG was “one of the topics” the two leaders discussed, von der Leyen told reporters in Budapest.
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The European Union imposed its first major restrictions on Russian gas, including LNG, in its 14th sanctions package in June. Russia still remains Europe’s second-largest importer of LNG, after the U.S.
Good move. But a better move would be to reduce reliance on LNG all together.
We do that in parallel just takes time.
You’re talking about a pro-fossil fuel, anti-climate change administration.
I’m only surprised this is something negative for Putin.
You can work on both at the same time, but you can’t abandon gas from one to the other second
I find super funny that they tried to impose sanctions to something we are 100% depending on. And instead of, you know, fixing the problem of dependency, they’ll switch to a different dealer.
We didn’t really stop importing Russian gas, there’s still long-term contracts if e.g. Austria refused to accept Russian gas they’d still have to pay for it. Situation is different with Germany as there Russia broke the contract, stopped deliveries even though Germany was paying, so the country got out of the long-term contract for free.
When it comes to self-sanctioning have a look at Russia sanctioning European food exports. Not that the Faroese would ever complain, of course, they’re selling tons of fish to Russia right now who can blame them their yearly GDP is like three patriot batteries.
The dependency was massively reduced just in 2022 post invasion, but you can’t just go cold turkey.
There are multiple sources for it and they only sanction one of them.
So, Trump just keeps on winning? How about getting rid of the gas dependency altogether? I feel like people are just making one poor choice after the other these days.
It’s simply a strategic move to cater to Trump’s ego.
It’s actually genius. Make Trump look good, tie US closer to Europe while unshackling from Russia.
Appealing to Trump’s ego is the only way allies will survive. And if Trump ever leaves office, it’s still good news if Dems get back in.
The actual logistical process of getting away from LNG is probably more monumental than is feasible in the near-term.
Appealing to Trump’s ego is the only way allies will survive.
Very bold of you to assume that the only way “allies will survive” is by the grace of the US. Shit Americans say.
lmao?
Shit tankies say.
I’m American, but I try not to say shit like that because it’s not true.
That in no way precludes one from being a tanky, but let’s explore:
- As if their defense wasn’t heavily reliant upon the US umbrella and budget that dwarfs their capability
- As if we didn’t bail them the fuck out in WWII.
- As if this very fucking action by the EU isn’t proof of that, itself.
God, I can’t believe you actually got me defending our own military industrial complex. But hey, I really hope you prove me wrong for their sake.
Yeah, the “me big strong American man” response. What else is new…
Great counterpoint, buddy ;)
Lmao of course this is all you’ve got in response. This is why people don’t take you seriously.
Because replacing a heating system with a different one is expensive and a lot of pensioniers can’t afford this.
How about getting rid of the gas dependency altogether?
Already in the works, though for the time being (until fusion) Europe will be dependent on imports for energy and chemical feedstock but in the future that’s going to be ammonia (aka transportable hydrogen) from e.g. Canada and Namibia, produced by gigantic amounts of new solar and wind installations.
Also even though fusion is slated to finally arrive in the 2030s (Max Planck is now getting into commercialisation so yes it’s serious) it’s probably going to be a while before it’s price-competetive with renewables from places really suited for renewables, especially when we’re not talking raw electricity but stuff that can be transported more easily. So those investments abroad won’t be instant write-offs.
Russia remains second largest exporter I think they mean.
