Qualcomm claims that my Samsung Galaxy S25 Plus’ Snapdragon 8 Elite CPU is faster than the Intel Core Ultra 288V chip. My smartphone also has 12GB of RAM and 512GB of solid-state storage. In short, it’s more powerful than most of my laptops. So why not use it as a laptop?
Why not, indeed, says Google, which has introduced – at long last – a native Linux Terminal application in its March 2025 Pixel Feature Drop.
Can’t believe it’s been 10 years since Ms-Dos mobile.
My dream has been to have a phone that works like a phone until I get home and plug in a monitor and kbm then it’s a full fledged PC. Think Dex but not shitty Samsung Android. While I’m dreaming while docked it could also utilize a desktop grade GPU.
May I introduce you to what already existed at one time? (Motorola Atrix 4G from 2011 with Ubuntu desktop when docked.)
I do this today with my Librem 5 and a 1 TB uSD
IIRC you can do exactly that with the Nintendo Switch (carry it around like a handheld until you plug it into the TV and it becomes a stationary console), though i’ve never had a Switch myself so i don’t know for sure.
The switch is more or less the same when docked, only additional feature is you get to use a higher resolution.
Honestly the steamdeck shows we are getting close. It works like that, just in a slightly bigger form factor and without some of the phone hardware.
A little more tech advancement and I think this won’t be that hard to do.
I join you on this. The closest I found is a and old surface pro with Linux and waydroid on it. It is nicer than all my previous try but far far from perfect, not even good. Just meh + +.
I think it would have been much bigger if Pixels had hmdi out in the first few gens.
Dex is the closest I can get right now. I’d love to have one device. However I’ll need to degoogle and foss more things. I rely on Google Too much for games and such.
That would be the life.
That headline got me really excited before I realized they meant “in an app”.
Spanish BQ manufacturer sold Ubuntu phones a while ago. I had one, and it felt great. Unfortunately the phone itself (the screen in particular) was pretty low quality, and the customer support not qualitative enough. Mine broke just by sitting in the couch with it in my pocket. That was a huge lost opportunity.
Mine broke just by sitting in the couch with it in my pocket. That was a huge lost opportunity.
yeah you should have hurled it at a fascist.
It’s just virtualization, the same way you would run a Debian VM under Windows or whatever.
yeah, but being able to replace Android would have been nice.
Why would you want to not use Android? Can’t you just de-google your android if that’s your concern? Android is made for mobile devices.
because of docker, smb over tailscale, and a general lack of convenience associated with android’s settings.
The only phones that support it are either old or niche, I love my Google Pixel 9 and I would rather not give it up (I also love GraphineOS)
Feels backwards and you’re still not fully in control.
How are you not fully in control when running a foss rom? The only thing you can’t do (easily) is run a different Linux kernel due to drivers
Sorry Google, PostmarketOS will scratch that itch and soon enough eat your lunch: https://postmarketos.org/
I like postmarketos, but lol. Lmao, even.
What’s the catch
Its goog so:
- you get Debian terminal, run whatever you want!
- they get to track everything you do, remember your passwords for you and sell that data to everyone they can!
The GrapheneOS devs have been working on enabling this with all their hardening tweaks
Everything you want, except sudo! That’s freaking dangerous for you!
This incident will be reported.
To Santa!
If this will be anything like the Linux environment in chromebooks, then it will lack hardware acceleration. This could result in linux programs feeling sluggish and slow.
Isn’t that Termux?
Yes, except google is slowly killing Termux with a thousand cuts, while they will kill this only after a few years.
Google just doesn’t understand that they’re killing off the only people who want to buy their shitting products. How many people use Androids? How many people use Pixels? I would feel most people want these phones because we’re tech savvy people who don’t want the abstracted stuff Apple sells.
I thought Android’s market is people who don’t want to pay for iOS for various reasons, mostly due to cost.
There are way way more android phones in the world, but its mostly outside the US, so people pretend Apple is king.
Yes kinda. But if you buy the cheapest iphone and just use it until eol, it’s not too bad. Problem is the cheapest iphone, isn’t too cheap anymore.
They do? Can you elaborate?
Author faces regularly many issues when trying do make a new version of Termux to yet another set of googles demands or restrictions, sometimes unable to update play store version for years. As an (just) example, see this issue: https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-Android-10
there’s this thing https://furilabs.com/ but not FOSS; hopefully some of their hacks can make it into mobian or sumsuch
Would be nice to have some alternative for my Note 10+ that is no longer getting updates. Seems it’s not popular enough to have an EOL root/custom rom made, so it’s just stuck. Seems a waste for a device with decent CPU/GPU and 12gb ram.
Zomg, you have Lineage OS!
LineageOS A free and open-source operating system for various devices, based on the Android mobile platform.
Your phone will feel snappier than ever, you’ll get latest Android stuff (I’m sure official support for 15 is coming), and security updates.
You can also easily google or degoogle it.
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/d2s/
(Or if it’s the 5G variant)Only if they have the Exynos variant. Won’t work on the Qualcomm variant, annoyingly.
Bingo, it’s the Qualcomm variant unfortunately.
I am pretty sure it was possible even like 15 years ago through unofficial app on Google Play. What’s new here?
It’s now official™
I remember running some linux distro on my G1 wayy back in the day. Idk if it was debian, but it was a formative learning experience for me since it taught me what “chroot” was.
Samsung’s DEX had a downloadable Linux VM running nearly a decade ago.
Motorola had something similar too. Forgot the phone model, but it ran a modified version of ubuntu when you put it in a dock.
Wasn’t it just running Android in desktop mode?
And they killed it right?
Never even got to a production release. ☹️
oh i like this.
too bad its still android with al there tracking and bloatware. Hopefully degoogled roms will follow
I’m pretty sure I saw this is going to work on graphene
Is there an official source for this?
The article links to thid blog post, but I did not see anything relevant in it:
Like the Nokia N900 did back in 2004 - except it was a real mobile OS (but fully yours)
- 2004 wasn’t even 770 times.
While interesting, that’s not really news.
I have been running
bashlinux commands on my android device back in 2016 via Termux. it worked perfectly fine back then already, you couldapt installapplications andpython3your script.The problem is with other things. Android is dedicated to being actually usable on touch-screen devices. Installing desktop apps on Android would un-do that effect, so i guess it wouldn’t make a lot of sense.
Why do we want this when we can already install it via Termux?
Life is full of choices, isn’t it.
Sadly not always good ones…
This is native while termux is emulated, I think.
